tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post533166322792166101..comments2024-03-02T15:23:18.091-05:00Comments on D-Ed Reckoning: Chris Lehmann RespondsKDeRosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-63837539042130344362008-07-22T04:11:00.000-04:002008-07-22T04:11:00.000-04:00With the ever changing society and the students in...<I>With the ever changing society and the students in that society, how do past "proven" means of teaching keep up with today's new technology and parent/student attitudes?</I><BR/><BR/>The guys who worked out Direct Instruction have also worked out a series of axioms for writing new curriculum (though they advise that any curriculum be field-tested). <BR/>See http://zigsite.com/PDFs/rubric.pdf<BR/><BR/>Solution - if you want to keep up with new technologies and parents/student attitudes, write a new curriculum according to the rubric and field-test it, revising based on the results of the field tests. <BR/><BR/>The rubrics include items like "The wording must be clear and concise." and "The presentation introduces all discriminations that are<BR/>necessary for a reasonable test of what is taught and none<BR/>that are not necessary." These rubrics strike me as applying as equally to curriculum that use computers or the Internet as ones that use pen and paper, and equally good regardless of parent/student attitudes.Tracy Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08999246551652981965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-50652452843757779822008-07-20T08:32:00.000-04:002008-07-20T08:32:00.000-04:00I'm not so sure what I'm advocating is a past prov...I'm not so sure what I'm advocating is a past proven method. At the K-12 level history was typically taught as a parade of facts to be learned. <BR/><BR/>The goal of education should be for students to learn with undestanding and I don't have a problem with incorporating technology into the classroom.<BR/><BR/>It's the progressive pedagogy I have a problem with because it doesn't work for many kids--the ones with limited background knowledge mostly.<BR/>Dressing it up in technology doesn't make it any more palatable.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-66547555580082344092008-07-19T23:10:00.000-04:002008-07-19T23:10:00.000-04:00Ken-Let me start by saying this isn't a criticism,...Ken-<BR/>Let me start by saying this isn't a criticism, I really am wondering your thoughts.<BR/>With the ever changing society and the students in that society, how do past "proven" means of teaching keep up with today's new technology and parent/student attitudes? No, you can't just make up your own stuff, I realize. Feel free to put a link to a post I haven't found yet.<BR/>Thanks<BR/><BR/>Parentalcation: Yep, lets make a handbook that has every single project from every single student. And I'm sure no one else (test scores included) alters numbers to make their case. Especially with AYP.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13933605594796435164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-32286223145418605072008-07-19T10:45:00.000-04:002008-07-19T10:45:00.000-04:00The ones with evidence of success, like DI (not to...The ones with evidence of success, like DI (not to be confused with di).<BR/><BR/>Looking means examining the student's work to see if he has learned what you wanted him to learn.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-11750354076661984672008-07-19T00:43:00.000-04:002008-07-19T00:43:00.000-04:00"To the extent that I favor certain pedagogies ove..."To the extent that I favor certain pedagogies over others, it is only because those pedagogies have evidence of superior results when we look at what the student has actually learned."<BR/><BR/>Sorry, new here. Which pedagogies are you referring to? Within these pedagogies, how does "look[ing]" occur and what is it one would be trying to see?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-81452999247730283202008-07-18T21:35:00.000-04:002008-07-18T21:35:00.000-04:00The ones with more background knowledge.The ones with more background knowledge.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-52487479754977276072008-07-18T21:32:00.000-04:002008-07-18T21:32:00.000-04:00Could you clarify what you mean, "There is always ...Could you clarify what you mean, "There is always the possibility, but I've yet to see the results with a population like that of SLA."<BR/><BR/>Are you saying that only certain children can learn through an inquiry-driven approach? Which type of children would these be?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-29292738232002694482008-07-18T15:02:00.000-04:002008-07-18T15:02:00.000-04:00If the students knew that all their projects would...If the students knew that all their projects would be up on the web for everyone to see, perhaps that would motivate them to work harder.<BR/><BR/><BR/>ari-freeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-30082015460288788302008-07-18T13:47:00.000-04:002008-07-18T13:47:00.000-04:00Perhaps it is best to try combine both approaches....Perhaps it is best to try combine both approaches.<BR/><BR/>I think DI is great for developing skills.<BR/><BR/>I think projects are good for developing the ability to ask questions and follow through based on a students interests. <BR/><BR/>I want both for my kid. A strong solid base of skills and the ability to follow their own interests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-23254618186208417502008-07-18T12:23:00.000-04:002008-07-18T12:23:00.000-04:00The great thing about project/authentic blah, blah...The great thing about project/authentic blah, blah, blah, is that the school administrators can take the very best and hold them up to illustrate what they have achieved. Never mind that the rest of the projects are a big pile of crap.TurbineGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09781298806992944235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-47967557113766050982008-07-18T12:18:00.000-04:002008-07-18T12:18:00.000-04:00"Perhaps, there is a better example project for in..."Perhaps, there is a better example project for inclusion in next year's handbook."<BR/><BR/>Of course there is. Chris Lehmann is writing it right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com