tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post7401956999580858541..comments2024-03-02T15:23:18.091-05:00Comments on D-Ed Reckoning: Reading Recovery gets the WWC TreatmentKDeRosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-73525238764547621042010-09-10T20:13:04.793-04:002010-09-10T20:13:04.793-04:00Come on, Karina, we're in the post Rose Report...Come on, Karina, we're in the post Rose Report era now. If your head teacher has really banned the teaching of synthetic phonics, why not ask the LA what they think? I'm sure the literacy leader would be interested to hear her rationale, not to mention Ofsted. <br /><br />I do teach RR with an emphasis on phonic decoding. I am also currently privately teaching a seven year old child with a 'reading age' of ten who barely understands a sentence he reads: a true case of 'barking at the text'. It's now MY job to 'undo' the poor teaching he has received under a regime that has only valued his ability to phonically pronounce words with no consideration given to comprehension. All the phonics in the world won't provide a child with the meanings of words, phrases and sentences if they do not yet have good language and vocabulary, and that has to be nurtured alongside decoding skills.Somahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004280790981374457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-43381081941101787482009-02-25T17:23:00.000-05:002009-02-25T17:23:00.000-05:00Secretary of Education Duncan and Beltway "policy ...Secretary of Education Duncan and Beltway "policy makers" have no idea that Whole Language was just re-branded as Balanced Literacy and the WL still dominates reading instruction, not only in the US but in every English-speaking country in the world. There are exceptions here and there, with programs such as DI in the US, and Synthetic Phonics in the UK,but they are exceptions rather than the rule.<BR/><BR/>Secretary Duncan apparently thinks that "re-branding" is all that is required to "fix" NCLB. If so, he could hardly be more misguided.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-17186836478161679932009-02-24T15:48:00.000-05:002009-02-24T15:48:00.000-05:00Moreover, RWreck tenets now permeate “Balanced Lit...<I>Moreover, RWreck tenets now permeate “Balanced Literacy” instruction</I><BR/><BR/>Of course they do. Reading Recovery was brought to the US by Gay Su Pinnell, at Ohio State, who is also -- along with Irene Fountas -- the guru of Guided Reading and Balanced Literacy. <BR/><BR/>The philosophy of Guided Reading, the Literacy Collaborative and other balanced literacy initiatives openly traces its roots to Marie Clay. Pinnell is the developer of the "leveled books" system.<BR/>These levels are based on various text features but not on how readily words can be decoded.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Bridges-Literacy-Learning-Reading-Recovery/dp/0435085751" REL="nofollow"> Pinnell book on learning from Reading Recovery</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.capetigers.com/Portals/0/Curriculum/Documents/Research%20Based%20BL.pdf" REL="nofollow">Deities of the Balanced Literacy Pantheon</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.worthington.k12.oh.us/uploads/2/File/documents/strategic_balanced_framework_for_literacy_.pdf" REL="nofollow">more than you want to know about Balanced Literacy</A><BR/><BR/> <A HREF="http://books.heinemann.com/shared/onlineresources%5CE01825%5CF&PPromptingFlyer.pdf" REL="nofollow">How to Teach Guessing, I mean, Reading</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-85687436383326922632009-02-22T14:03:00.000-05:002009-02-22T14:03:00.000-05:00Reading Recovery is alive and well in the US. Wit...Reading Recovery is alive and well in the US. With 22 universities turning out new Wreckers annually, it just keeps rolling along.<BR/>www.readingrecovery.org/<BR/>implementation/effective/index.asp <BR/><BR/>www.rrosu.org/History/history1.htm <BR/><BR/>Moreover, RWreck tenets now permeate “Balanced Literacy” instruction, which is the mask worn by “Whole Language.”<BR/><BR/>Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-13585524688053770962009-02-21T11:42:00.000-05:002009-02-21T11:42:00.000-05:00Dear Urbanteach,I can really relate to your experi...Dear Urbanteach,<BR/>I can really relate to your experiences. I am a teacher working in the UK, having to teach children who have been through RR. They come into my class every year as the poorest readers. This shows how effective the programme is! I have a really difficult time trying to get them to sound out words rather than guess at them. I was teaching some ex-RR children in my class with a synthetic phonics programme. One day the RR teacher screamed at me I shouldn't be doing that and complained to the Headteacher, a former RR teacher herself. Now I am banned from teaching synthetic phonics in my classroom.<BR/>Has the Reading First programme in the US made a difference since you posted this comment? I believe that RR no longer gets funding in the US, is that right?<BR/>Teacher KUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00009770088460797209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-8456340486118872672007-04-05T07:00:00.000-04:002007-04-05T07:00:00.000-04:00Every year I get the job of re-teaching the Readin...Every year I get the job of re-teaching the Reading Recovery "successes" when they move on to second grade. When we do our September assessments, these kids are at the bottom of the heap, most test out as complete non-readers. They guess wildly, they make up stories to go with the pictures, they are at DRA level A or 1. On norm-referenced tests they score at a kindergarten level. About 12 children per year in first grade are served through Reading Recovery, and of that number 1 or sometimes 2 need no further assistance amd the rest have to be "remediated." <BR/><BR/>It's harder to get the Reading Recovery students to learn to read well, and to overcome their bad habits, than it is to teach a beginner or "failed" reader in the first place. I find it takes almost a year to get them over thinking that the pictures or other "cues" are going to magically provide them with the word, and to look at the actual letters and sounds in front of them.<BR/><BR/>Of course when the district does its follow-up on these students in THIRD grade, the ones I have "fixed" are doing well (often in top third of class) but Reading Recovery gets the credit;-)<BR/><BR/>urbanteachAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-50697884178243010482007-03-21T21:00:00.000-04:002007-03-21T21:00:00.000-04:00"I taught him a "trick" for spelling that I used w..."I taught him a "trick" for spelling that I used when I was a kid: instead of trying to memorize the spelling, remember a different pronunciation for the word that corresponds to the way it's actually spelled, exaggerating if necessary."<BR/><BR/>So I am not the only one who uses that method. I came up with that method because I am multilingual (including Spanish) and I playfully pronounce English phonetically. As a result I don't misspell words like definitely, laboratory, unfortunately, relevant, fraudulent...Instructivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01652458042291988959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-74125479081941750382007-03-21T08:24:00.000-04:002007-03-21T08:24:00.000-04:00Hey Ken,You create a diversion and I'll make a run...Hey Ken,<BR/><BR/>You create a diversion and I'll make a run for the Reading Recovery Council's accounting department. I'm dying to go through their checkbook.<BR/><BR/>r schneider1citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14145980266535626431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-60847421625739698622007-03-20T19:29:00.000-04:002007-03-20T19:29:00.000-04:00Another one:http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/...Another one:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=5&num=9249<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>'R' Stands for Reading Rat Race<BR/>By Nancy Salvato<BR/>Oct 22, 2006 <BR/><BR/>In the Summer of 2001 Dame Marie Clay, creator of the New Zealand based Reading Recovery program, and her entourage came to the Rayburn House Office Building in Washington, DC, to speak with House Education Committee Staffer Bob Sweet. Her purpose was to ascertain whether Reading Recovery would be eligible for Reading First funding once the bill was passed. Bob explained to Ms. Clay that explicit, systematic phonics instruction had to be included in any program eligible for RF funding because it was one of the necessary key components of reading instruction that had been established through decades of carefully conducted quantitative research. <BR/><BR/>These findings had been validated in the Report of the National Reading Panel in 2000 and were now going to become an essential part of the Reading First Law. He pleaded with Ms. Clay to use her extensive network of teacher training programs all over the US to help in the implementation of the RF program. He encouraged her to provide the leadership within the RR family to make the modifications necessary, and thus make RR eligible for RF funding consideration.<BR/><BR/>With a stare as cold as ice, Marie Clay replied that RR would not be making any changes to their program; however, Mr. Sweet could be certain a new description of its components would be written in such a way as to bring it into compliance with the RF law. Momentarily dumbfounded, he maintained that Reading Recovery could not be eligible for RF funding without modification, and his initial estimation then still stands today.<BR/></I> read the rest.Liz Ditzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03455722013211350247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-6919621841220027252007-03-20T19:16:00.000-04:002007-03-20T19:16:00.000-04:00It's Liz from I Speak of Dreams.Wrightslaw also ha...It's Liz from <A HREF="http://lizditz.typepad.com" REL="nofollow">I Speak of Dreams</A>.<BR/><BR/>Wrightslaw also has a page on the lameness of reading recovery:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/read.rr.research.farrall.htm" REL="nofollow">Reading Recovery: What do School Districts Get for Their Money?</A> A Review of the Research by Melissa Farrall, Ph.D.<BR/><BR/>Short version: LD kids, who don't respond, are dropped from the program, but it is so expensive that more effective programs are underfunded.Liz Ditzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03455722013211350247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-67160348635268634112007-03-20T10:43:00.000-04:002007-03-20T10:43:00.000-04:00Oh Rory, that's horrible.I go over my son's spelli...Oh Rory, that's horrible.<BR/><BR/>I go over my son's spelling words at least three times a week with him, having him write them and mixing them up each time.<BR/><BR/>I taught him a "trick" for spelling that I used when I was a kid: instead of trying to memorize the spelling, remember a different pronunciation for the word that corresponds to the way it's actually spelled, exaggerating if necessary. <BR/><BR/>Think of the poor parents who have no idea how their children are learning.CrypticLifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05313033952671292402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-33126960912905409682007-03-20T09:39:00.000-04:002007-03-20T09:39:00.000-04:00Have I mentioned how much I hate whole language.Have I mentioned how much <A HREF="http://parentalcation.blogspot.com/2007/03/i-fricking-hate-whole-language.html" REL="nofollow">I hate whole language</A>.TurbineGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09781298806992944235noreply@blogger.com