tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post114721251346303129..comments2024-03-26T14:44:37.985-04:00Comments on D-Ed Reckoning: Response to "No end to Clayton teacher brain drain"KDeRosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147700479018953532006-05-15T09:41:00.000-04:002006-05-15T09:41:00.000-04:00jg, most of the structure in DI is faded out by th...jg, most of the structure in DI is faded out by the later grades, so instruction more resembles traditional instruction. The DI philosophy is basically teach clearly and in a logically flawless manner, teach all preskills needed before tecahing today's lesson, provide sufficient distribued practice so students can master the material, make sure that stuednts are mastering the material.<BR/><BR/>I don't know of any commercially available high school level DI math programs, however, a good teacher can make up his own. I'd recommend:<BR/><BR/>1. Reading over Engelmann's <A HREF="http://zigsite.com/PDFs/StuPro_Align.pdf" REL="nofollow">Student-Program Alignment and Teaching to Mastery</A> to learn what mastery learning is.<BR/><BR/>2. Picking up a copy of <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0135966515/sr=8-2/qid=1147700098/ref=sr_1_2/104-1231774-8988742?%5Fencoding=UTF8" REL="nofollow">Designing Effective Mathematics Instruction</A> to see how lessons are to be designed in an elementary math program, this will also help with some beginning topics in your courses and remediation.<BR/><BR/>3. Pick up some of the later texts (Levels D, E, and F) (<A HREF="http://www.academicbookservices.com/" REL="nofollow">used</A>) for Connecting Math Concepts to see how they set up lessons and deal with distributed practice.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147573662027603312006-05-13T22:27:00.000-04:002006-05-13T22:27:00.000-04:00Clayton's problem is that there is increasing viol...Clayton's problem is that there is increasing violence in their schools and teachers are becoming afraid to stay there. Yeah, that was glossed over, all right! No one can learn when the schools are out of control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147569760973888712006-05-13T21:22:00.000-04:002006-05-13T21:22:00.000-04:00That does help me at least see the idea. I'll adm...That does help me at least see the idea. I'll admit that it is still hard for me to grasp because I teach high school math so I can't even begin to figure out what an effective elementary reading lesson looks like. I can definetly see how it could feel boring for a teacher. I teach the same class three times a day and I'll be the first to admit that I'm bored by the time I do the lesson for the third time.<BR/><BR/>I do like the consistency of instruction you would get across the board regardless of the teacher. I know at my school how 3 different teachers teaching the same subject can get vastly different results from students.<BR/><BR/>Has any research been done on this about how to implement such a program? By this I mean I could see students that had been brought up in this system responding very positively to this style because there is consistency each year between teachers where with our current systems some students may find one teacher or another "better" so they work harder for them. With a consisten style I would think this is less likely to happen. My question/concern is I could see MAJOR problems if I tried to implement such a curriculum in my 10th grade class if they had been taught in the "traditional" style for the previous 9 years I could see them rebelling and it beinig a very difficult situation.<BR/><BR/>I have to say I am more intrigued by the idea then I was originally although I'm still some what skeptical. I'll have to do some more reading.jghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07898818315012405063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147487538314379052006-05-12T22:32:00.000-04:002006-05-12T22:32:00.000-04:00I posted a sample script from a lesson from Readin...I posted a sample script from a lesson from Reading Mastery III <A HREF="http://d-edreckoning.blogspot.com/2006/04/reading-mastery-iii-sample-lesson-part.html" REL="nofollow">here</A> with my explanation of what's going on in the lesson.<BR/><BR/>This lesson would be taken in first grade for above average kids who completed the Reading Mastery Fast Cycle Course in K. Below average kids would take it in second grade if they had full day K. Adjust accordingly for half day K.<BR/><BR/>Let me know what you think.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147460336600912382006-05-12T14:58:00.000-04:002006-05-12T14:58:00.000-04:00any chance we could get a look at one of these scr...any chance we could get a look at one of these scripts for DI? I have very little knowledge and am curious what they would look like. It is hard to form an opinion of whether or not it is boring and robotic if I've never seen one. thanks.jghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07898818315012405063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147441565444904472006-05-12T09:46:00.000-04:002006-05-12T09:46:00.000-04:00That was SusanS checking in.Love your blog, but mi...That was SusanS checking in.<BR/><BR/>Love your blog, but miss you over at KTM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147441473087751712006-05-12T09:44:00.000-04:002006-05-12T09:44:00.000-04:00Hey Ken,Just checking to see if I can post. Blogge...Hey Ken,<BR/><BR/>Just checking to see if I can post. Blogger didn't like any of my names.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147388703568057092006-05-11T19:05:00.000-04:002006-05-11T19:05:00.000-04:00Pointe South Elementary teacher Louise Toombs said...<I><BR/>Pointe South Elementary teacher Louise Toombs said she also considered leaving because of Direct Instruction, but decided to stay because she liked her principal. Overall, teachers don't feel they are getting respect, she said.<BR/><BR/>"We don't have any input on anything," said Toombs, a fifth-grade reading teacher who began teaching in Clayton in 1998.</I><BR/><BR/>This actually is a problem.....which we see here, too.<BR/><BR/>I've made a bit of headway through Ouchi's book (UCLA management guy)...IIRC it's taken as a given that the reason we have teacher's unions - and fact need teacher's unions - is to protect teachers not from parents but from bad administrators.<BR/><BR/>I don't know anything about management reform, etc, and obviously I'm a fan of DI.<BR/><BR/>But this kind of talk is <I>always</I> bad. <BR/><BR/>If you've got teachers feeling they have no respect & no input, you've got teachers who are in all likelihood going to be sabotaging the Exciting New Reform being imposed top down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147319815935336442006-05-10T23:56:00.000-04:002006-05-10T23:56:00.000-04:00Hi tangoman, I take that as a very good sign.Hi tangoman, I take that as a very good sign.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1147316431846485452006-05-10T23:00:00.000-04:002006-05-10T23:00:00.000-04:00You don't provide much material to contest so I'll...You don't provide much material to contest so I'll just chime in with a "good job" and "I'm reading your posts even if I'm not commenting."<BR/><BR/>I'm glad I found your blog.TangoManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228734445464184781noreply@blogger.com