tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post115696471703542430..comments2024-03-26T14:44:37.985-04:00Comments on D-Ed Reckoning: Let's Go to The VideotapeKDeRosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1157132864571132852006-09-01T13:47:00.000-04:002006-09-01T13:47:00.000-04:00What would classroom teachers do if they really he...What would classroom teachers do if they really held the reins?<BR/><BR/>It's possible that we don't have to speculate. I believe that there are stories of teachers who, fed up with "the system," banded together to open their own charter schools. If we can identify them, can't we look to see exactly what they've accomplished?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1157124732645730092006-09-01T11:32:00.000-04:002006-09-01T11:32:00.000-04:00rightwingprof, I had read your analyses when you p...rightwingprof, I had read your analyses when you posted them. i also ran the ANOVA on the dataset with similar results.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1157121174543547432006-09-01T10:32:00.000-04:002006-09-01T10:32:00.000-04:00"The problem is, most politicians aren't listening..."The problem is, most politicians aren't listening."<BR/><BR/>I hate to say it, but this is, of course, the problem with putting any service in the hands of the public sector. Politics. But politics and politicians are the price we pay for public education.rightwingprofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12419372059353408855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1157121068176824302006-09-01T10:31:00.000-04:002006-09-01T10:31:00.000-04:00I did a couple of very proto prelim analyses mysel...I did a couple of very proto prelim analyses myself (with what data I had, which wasn't much), <A HREF="http://rightwingnation.com/index.php/2006/03/26/1139/" REL="nofollow">here</A> and <A HREF="http://rightwingnation.com/index.php/2006/03/28/1148/" REL="nofollow">here</A>.rightwingprofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12419372059353408855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1157039078414389942006-08-31T11:44:00.000-04:002006-08-31T11:44:00.000-04:00High stakes testing isn't the solution it only sho...High stakes testing isn't the solution it only shows where the problems lie. Schools still have to do something to improve test scores, if they are unwilling or unable, improvement will not occur.<BR/><BR/>Politicians are only making some of the decisions, many of them bad. Most of the decisions are left up to the schools who make just as many bad decisions.<BR/><BR/>You're a teacher tell us what you'd do. But, stay within the realm of reality. Be specific. SHow support.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1156999279064884022006-08-31T00:41:00.000-04:002006-08-31T00:41:00.000-04:00Actually, I do NOT feel that student achievement i...Actually, I do NOT feel that student achievement is fait accompli among the low SES crowd. I just disagree with you (greatly) on how to go about improving the student achievement levels of low-SES and all students. High stakes testing is not the way to do it, nor is a school system where politicians are making the major decisions. The way to improve schools is to put teachers in charge of the reform measures<BR/><BR/>Visit any low achieving school, ask the secretary who the best 3 teachers are, and ask those 3 teachers what the problems are. Not only will they ID the problems but they can supply you with the solutions.<BR/><BR/>The problem is, most politicians aren't listening.Mike in Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00635962989639829455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1156993735455985062006-08-30T23:08:00.000-04:002006-08-30T23:08:00.000-04:00The main difference between the parental education...The main difference between the parental education data and the household income is that the correlation is higher (about 0.6 as I recall). This makes sense because parental education is a more accurate measure of parental IQ than is family income.<BR/><BR/>Where we differ is our conclusions. <BR/><BR/>Your view is that student achievement is a fait accompli among the low SES crows since schools are currently doing as good a job as can be expected.<BR/><BR/>My view is that schools and teaching can be improved such that most kids perform at grade level. The regression line will still exist, it'll just be shifted upward.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-1156991815177792822006-08-30T22:36:00.000-04:002006-08-30T22:36:00.000-04:00Nonetheless, it's pretty clear that family income ...<I>Nonetheless, it's pretty clear that family income is a good predictor of academic success.</I><BR/><BR/>Man, who ARE you and what have you done with KDeRosa?<BR/><BR/>I believe I've been trying to point out to you the correlation between academic achievement and household income for quite some time. The data on parental education should also be interesting.Mike in Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00635962989639829455noreply@blogger.com