tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post6477761870295097227..comments2024-03-26T14:44:37.985-04:00Comments on D-Ed Reckoning: Innocuous and Clueless but CreepyKDeRosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-22058360249688960982009-09-19T08:47:45.818-04:002009-09-19T08:47:45.818-04:00Actually, Ken, we "appreciate the present con...Actually, Ken, we "appreciate the present controversy." We just think you're wrong.Michael Shirleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13355439947660092660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-27460327689253812722009-09-17T18:52:38.122-04:002009-09-17T18:52:38.122-04:00Aw, c'mon Ken. You're healthy, and you re...Aw, c'mon Ken. You're healthy, and you really should peek at the stuff.<br /><br />An aneurysm is a possibility, but apoplexy or vomiting would be a more likely reaction.<br /><br />Actually, "lesson plans" is a bit of a misnomer. What we have is two "Menus of Classroom Activities"--One for preK-6 and one for 7-12:<br /><br />www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf<br /><br />www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf<br /><br />The "menus" were "Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education"<br /><br />The Ambassador Fellows and the D-Ed officials who approved the "menus" could use some (actually a lot of) DI about instruction. I haven't come across any better poster-example of why the el-hi enterprise clock is striking 13.<br /><br />Is there such a condition as "post-clueless"?Dick Schutzhttp://ssrn.com/author=1199505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-89809482186501501132009-09-16T18:41:58.387-04:002009-09-16T18:41:58.387-04:00Dick, I couldn't even bring myself to look at ...Dick, I couldn't even bring myself to look at the lesson plans. Imight have had an aneurysm.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-52949048563100820272009-09-16T18:36:32.395-04:002009-09-16T18:36:32.395-04:00I agree that "Innocuous and Clueless but Cree...I agree that "Innocuous and Clueless but Creepy" is an apt title for the post. <br /><br />The scariest aspect to me was that the President and his advisers apparently believe that responsibility and accountability for el-hi schooling does not go higher than kids, parents, and school site personnel.<br /><br />D-Ed personnel have more productive things to do than preparing (vapid) lesson plans. If it's anything that teacher's can do well, they can prepare lesson plans. Offering lesson plans and expecting them to have any positive instructional effect is profoundly clueless.Dick Schutzhttp://ssrn.com/author=1199505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-50922704283462916842009-09-16T16:37:15.014-04:002009-09-16T16:37:15.014-04:00Parry I'm sure you're right that the most ...Parry I'm sure you're right that the most articulated reason for the controversy was political speech content.<br /><br />But isn't that what the President still did despite not mentioning the hot topic du jour? (And, for that matter isn't it what Reagan and Bush I did back when they gave speeches to school children?) Part of my argument is the unseemliness that many Americans don't appreciate the concepts behind limited government and federalism and the dangers those concepts were meant to guard against.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-32313614202237310862009-09-16T16:12:54.472-04:002009-09-16T16:12:54.472-04:00Ken,
As a principal who heard from multiple paren...Ken,<br /><br />As a principal who heard from multiple parents with concerns, I can tell you that the nature of the concerns at my school was less about federal intrusion and power grabs, and more about the potentially political content of the speech. <br /><br />My take was that the White House did a particularly poor job publicizing the speech, the proposed content of the speech, and the intentions of the speech. For many parents, it seems that all they heard was "The president is going to be speaking to school children the day before he addresses Congress about health care." Parents I heard from did not have a clear understanding of the intent of the speech, and they were worried that it would focus on the president's political agenda.<br /><br />My guess is that, had the White House done a good job of publicizing the speech and its content well in advance, and made clear that it would have no political overtones, there would have been much less controversy.<br /><br />ParryParry Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109638345554364909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-42011882860794675682009-09-16T12:01:59.766-04:002009-09-16T12:01:59.766-04:00I don't remember claiming there was a plot, ev...I don't remember claiming there was a plot, evil or otherwise.<br /><br />What I did write was that many people, including the President, either "missed or failed to appreciate the present controversy" much like you did.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-69211954698516651652009-09-16T11:51:31.930-04:002009-09-16T11:51:31.930-04:00Oh, geez. It was just the president talking to sc...Oh, geez. It was just the president talking to school kids, telling them to stay in school. There was nothing evil about it. There was no power grab. It had nothing to do with federalism and usurping states' powers. Will it be effective? Probably not. But to think it was some kind of plot is just delusional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com