tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post8121590644766076643..comments2024-03-26T14:44:37.985-04:00Comments on D-Ed Reckoning: Edweek Spins Reading ResearchKDeRosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-2285287877727334832007-08-22T19:23:00.000-04:002007-08-22T19:23:00.000-04:00Stan Pogrow argues for the importance of Socratic ...Stan Pogrow argues for the importance of Socratic dialog once decoding is mastered.<BR/><BR/>If the following link doesn't work, google this:<BR/><BR/>"<A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A15183-2002Jul16?language=printer" REL="nofollow">Pogrow felt his blood pressure rise</A>. This was the great success? This was the greatly influential Slavin, shrugging off the revelation that the students for whom he claimed success were essentially illiterate? Pogrow was appalled. He thought those students could do much better. He went to war."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-64242850009289053252007-08-22T09:15:00.000-04:002007-08-22T09:15:00.000-04:00This blog is stellar, at least relative to all the...<I>This blog is stellar, at least relative to all the ignorant nonsense that overflows in universities and the media.</I><BR/><BR/>That's a very low threshold to get over.<BR/><BR/>Yes, vocabulary is a known and very serious bottleneck blocking many low IQ kids from becoming proficient readers.<BR/><BR/><I>I had been particularly influenced by Wesley Becker's famous Harvard Educational Review article (1977) noting that the impact of early DISTAR success with decoding was muted for reading comprehension in later elementary grades by vocabulary limitations. Becker argued that this was a matter of experience rather than general intelligence by observing that while his DISTAR students' reading comprehension fell relative to more advantaged students by grade 4, their mathematics performance remained high. He suggested that the difference was that all the knowledge that is needed for math achievement is taught in school, whereas the vocabulary growth needed for successful reading comprehension is essentially left to the home. Disadvantaged homes provide little support for vocabulary growth, as recently documented by Hart and Risley (1995). </I>KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-44784054419703337752007-08-19T21:27:00.000-04:002007-08-19T21:27:00.000-04:00Just discovered this blog. It makes me feel less...Just discovered this blog. It makes me feel less alone in the eduverse. This blog is steller, at least relative to all the ignorant nonsense that overflows in universities and the media.<BR/><BR/>Question:<BR/><BR/>How do low income students get to the 8th grade level on standardized tests of reading comprehension?<BR/><BR/>It seems like many people have phonics licked, but that only gets students to the third or fourth grade level.<BR/><BR/>I would propose that vocabulary and critical reasoning are bottlenecks for most low income students.<BR/><BR/>Are you familiar with the research on the gwl (general word list) and the awl (academic word list)?<BR/><BR/>Really interested in your thoughts on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-53267384962209004652007-08-18T15:10:00.000-04:002007-08-18T15:10:00.000-04:00Good teachers are constrained by an ineffective cu...Good teachers are constrained by an ineffective curriculum and an unskilled teacher can turn an effective curriculum into an ineffective one.KDeRosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853211164976890091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25541994.post-22337230186491932122007-08-18T11:25:00.000-04:002007-08-18T11:25:00.000-04:00Some of these wonks seem to overlook the fact that...Some of these wonks seem to overlook the fact that textbooks don't teach children - teachers do. We use Houghton-Mifflin in DC, and while I really like it, it's a disaster in a classroom staffed with an ineffective teacher. Some of the charter schools use Open Court, which I hate, but a well-trained teacher can use the program and produce huge academic gains. *We* are the difference.DC Teacher Chichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15378646116878258735noreply@blogger.com